Plant Spirit Communication: Immunity Is Not Resistance I reblogged this piece by Renée Wade. I love it: Check it out! Share this: « Frank Zappa, my musical hero » Cholesterol, Statins, and The Medicalization of Life (Ivan Illich) 12 Comments fiona1968 Aug 30, 2012 @ 20:32:15 I do a lot of walking meditation outside and I incorporate trees into this particularly Oak. There is one particular Oak on my meditation walk that I can sit in. As a sufferer of Coeliac Disease I find a number of natural plants really helpful – mostly pure Ginger root which I add to hot water, also mint leaves. In fact Ginger is unbeatable for sorting out digestive problems in my experience. People are often inclined to clog up their digestive systems with drugs rather than letting nature gently deal with the discomfort. Reply jmbruce Aug 30, 2012 @ 21:29:08 The New Scientist had an article last week about plant sensitivity (far more than we usually think … plants are aware and respond to all the stimuli we’re sensitive to apparently) so this post is very relevant. I especially liked “immunity is not resistance”I then read the linked page about vibrancy of life … and immediately felt great joy at the truth of the holistic view — but remorse too. I have a SLUG problem! I live in wet, and relatively warm, Wales. When I first moved here and started my veggie garden I used to collect the slugs in a bucket and remove them two fields away — about half a bucket every day! I soon got fed up with that because there were always more, so I put down ‘ok for organics’ poison; but, feeling guilty, I thought a more humane way is a quick death so I stamped on them — but that made me feel sick so back to the poison. I know Buddhist monks can’t garden because of the killing it entails, but I’m not vegetarian and I do want to grow my own veg. Does anybody know a better way? Or is this equivalent to Krishna telling Arjuna to fight? That life and death depend on each other and one must face facts? Someone told me about Horsetail (Equisetum) for rheumaticky muscle pains and it really works for me … though not for everyone fiona1968 Aug 30, 2012 @ 21:51:49 Judy, I read that same article in New Scientist. In fact I am keeping it because I would like to write a post on it. Re the slug issue. I would suggest a pragmatic approach…if you were buying your veg then pecticides would have been used. Even the most organic produce employs the use of natural pesticides. For example in the growing of fruit farmers artificially introduce preditors of the pests into nearby hedges. I would suggest that your use of slug killer on balance is probably better than the not so carbon neutral use of road transport, air freight, packaging etc although marketing companies can always spin the truth to suit. If blood is to be on any ones hands in the name of our needs it is better to be on our own, that way we at least we survive with honesty…. Dr Joseph Bray Aug 30, 2012 @ 22:32:28 Judy, I have that problem too. I feel regret everytime I crunch a snail in the dark at night, another precious life snuffed out. On top of that I am an irretrievable carnivore, but the thought of me actually killing the animals I eat abhors me, so I let someone else do the killing for me. I rationalise this to myself by saying that (as we have seen) even plants feel it when they are killed. So vegetarians can’t get off the hook.I even feel guilty about buying a bunch of flowers, for God’s sake. All I can say to myself is that He designed it, and I don’t make the rules! Don’t know if that helps. For more about plants and feelings check out The Backster Effect ( critics say that Backster didn’t use controls in his experiments, invalidating his findings.) padraic2010 Sep 06, 2012 @ 20:23:00 There are other approaches that you may like to investigate. There is the notion of co-creating with nature which is espoused by, amongst others, Perelandra in the US and by Findhorn in England. Here is a link: http://www.t-a-d-a.com/PerelandraFindhorn.html Some years ago when faced with the same dilemma I invested in The Perelandra Garden Workbook. I liked the basic attitude but found the detail a little overwhelming (don’t let that put you off – I am easily overwhelmed!). However, the basic message I took from it was that the earth was bountiful and abundant and well capable of providing enough vegetables for me, the slugs, snails, birds and whatever other beings inhabited the garden. So, if I was sowing lettuces for example, I would sow four rows for family consumption and another row to feed and sustain all the other creatures. I liked the shift of attitude this brought about in me and it made my gardening more joyful and relaxed. And there were always plenty of vegetables. For what it’s worth… fiona1968 Sep 06, 2012 @ 20:31:45 Padraic, what a great approach. and actually very obvious- not obvious enough for me to have thought of it! I am a selfish gardener as I grow flowers and the snails ruin the appearance of them. I guess the right approach is to only grow what the snails don’t like in visible places and have something they love to eat safely out of sight… Dr Joseph Bray Sep 06, 2012 @ 21:03:04 That may well be the answer Judy was looking for in an earlier comment. fiona1968 Sep 06, 2012 @ 21:28:50 It is a way of thinking that could be adapted endlessly to solve some of lifes problems. Embracing the problem within the solution. A lesson for me padraic2010 Sep 06, 2012 @ 21:23:52 sorry, the above link is a bit rubbish. Here are better ones: http://www.perelandra-ltd.com/Environment-Gardening-for-Beginners-W5588C736.aspx http://www.findhorn.org/aboutus/vision/co-creation/#.UEkGSSLhKuJ Dr Joseph Bray Aug 30, 2012 @ 22:12:24 Fiona, You do not have ‘Coeliac Disease’: your body does not like wheat and gluten, as we were not designed to eat it. This is not a ‘disease’; it is your body’s way of telling you not to eat poison. Another example of the Medicalization of Life, with the Food Industry peddling grains as a ‘healthy’ option. fiona1968 Aug 30, 2012 @ 22:25:25 Well, unsuprisingly I have never heard that before. Actually I am not a fussy eater. I like everything but there is a lot I can’t tolerate. Grains, Alcohol, caffine, refined sugar, various food additives and chemicals in house hold products and cosmetics Dr Joseph Bray Aug 30, 2012 @ 22:34:17 Good for you, These are the main poisons the industry wants us to consume! No surprises there. Leave a Reply Cancel Your Name * Your Email * Your Website Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.